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Intel 8th Generation and 9th Generation Processor Lists Leaked: Coffee Lake Refresh?

Intel 8th Generation and 9th Generation Processor Lists Leaked: Coffee Lake Refresh?

Officially, Intel does not comment on unreleased products, which often has the knock-on effect that processors aren’t actually known about until the day they appear on shelves. In order to find information early (in order to prepare for launches), it comes down to software and retailers to expose the details, either accidentally or on purpose. From a couple of sources today, we now have a full list of Intel’s 8th Generation processor stack, which is expected to launch during the first half of 2018, as well as some elements of Intel’s next 9th generation products.

We have already had six processors from Intel’s desktop 8th Generation launch, called Coffee Lake, and a quartet of 8th generation notebook Kaby Lake refresh processors also launched. These are both called 8th generation, which can be confusing. Historically, Intel has never mixed and matched multiple microarchitecture designs in the same generation, but this changed when Murthy Renduchintala, Intel’s VP and GM of Client Computing and IoT, stated that ‘process tech use will be fluid based on segment’, indicating that within the same generation, there will be multiple microarchitectures at play. But along with the ten 8th Generation processors already launched, we have been expecting a broader stack of desktop and mobile parts, along with enterprise CPUs with ECC support.

One of the things to also come out of these leaks is confirmation of Intel’s new product stack alignment:

Pentium is now officially split between Gold and Silver, with Gold processors for the parts that use the Core microarchitecture, while Pentium Silver will be for Atom parts.

Intel’s 8th Generation Processors

The lists we have acquired starts with mobile processors. The key headline here is that Intel will be introducing the Core i9 brand to the mobile space, with one overclockable processor for now.

Intel 8th Generation Mobile Processors
Coffee Lake-H
Specifications
are not confirmed
Cores Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
L3 Nominal
TDP (PL1)
Core i9-8950HK 6 / 12 ? ? 12 MB 45 W
Core i7-8850H 6 / 12 ? ? 12 MB 45 W
Core i7-8750H 6 / 12 ? ? 12 MB 45 W
Core i5-8400H 6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB 45 W
Core i3-8300H 4 / 4 ? ? 8 MB 45 W

What our sources do confirm is that all the i7-H and i7-HK processors will be based on Coffee Lake-H hardware, rather than Kaby Lake Refresh. This might be due to the 45W nature of the processors, and it is expected that the i3/i5/i7 naming will follow desktop Coffee Lake core counts, namely that Core i3 will be quad-core, Core i5 will be six-core and Core i7 parts will be six-core with hyperthreading. A Core i9 part in this context is undefined, but I expect it just to be an additional qualifier for a Core i7 mobile processor that is overclockable (hence it’s called an HK).

This also means that the first Core i9 Coffee Lake processor is a mobile processor.

 

Next up is the desktop list for 8th Generation Coffee Lake-S based processors. Six of these processors have already been launched (indicated with a *), so we can fill in a number of the gaps. 

Intel 8th Generation Desktop Processors
Coffee Lake-S
Specifications not
confirmed except *
Cores Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
L3 TDP List
Price
Core i7
Core i7-8700K * 6 / 12 3.7 4.7 12 MB 95 W $359
Core i7-8700 * 6 / 12 3.2 4.6 12 MB 65 W $303
Core i7-8700B   6 / 12 ? ? 12 MB ? $303
Core i7-8700T   6 / 12 ? ? 12 MB 35 W $303
Core i7-8670   6 / 12 ? ? 12 MB 65 W ?
Core i7-8670T   6 / 12 ? ? 12 MB 35 W ?
Core i5
Core i5-8650K   6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB ? ?
Core i5-8650   6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB 65 W ?
Core i5-8600K * 6 / 6 3.6 4.3 9 MB 95 W $257
Core i5-8550   6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB 65 W ?
Core i5-8500   6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB 65 W ?
Core i5-8500B   6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB ? ?
Core i5-8500T   6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB 35 W ?
Core i5-8420   6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB 65 W ?
Core i5-8420T   6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB 35 W ?
Core i5-8400 * 6 / 6 2.8 4.0 9 MB 65 W $182
Core i5-8400B   6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB ? $182
Core i5-8400T   6 / 6 ? ? 9 MB 35 W $182
Core i3
Core i3-8350K * 4 / 4 4.0 8 MB 91 W $168
Core i3-8320   4 / 4 ? 8 MB 65 W ?
Core i3-8320T   4 / 4 ? 8 MB 35 W ?
Core i3-8300T   4 / 4 ? 8 MB 35 W ?
Core i3-8120   4 / 4 ? 6 MB 65 W ?
Core i3-8120T   4 / 4 ? 6 MB 35 W ?
Core i3-8100 * 4 / 4 3.6 6 MB 65 W $117
Core i3-8100T   4 / 4 ? 6 MB 35 W $117
Core i3-8020   4 / 4 ? 6 MB 65 W ?
Core i3-8020T   4 / 4 ? 6 MB 35 W ?
Core i3-8000   4 / 4 ? 6 MB 65 W ?
Core i3-8000T   4 / 4 ? 6 MB 35 W ?
Pentium Gold
Pentium Gold G5620   2 / 4 ? 3 MB ? ?
Pentium Gold G5620T   2 / 4 ? 3 MB 35 W ?
Pentium Gold G5600   2 / 4 ? 3 MB ? ?
Pentium Gold G5500   2 / 4 ? 3 MB ? ?
Pentium Gold G5500T   2 / 4 ? 3 MB 35 W ?
Pentium Gold G5420   2 / 4 ? 3 MB ? ?
Pentium Gold G5420T   2 / 4 ? 3 MB 35 W ?
Pentium Gold G5400   2 / 4 ? 3 MB ? ?
Pentium Gold G5400T   2 / 4 ? 3 MB 35 W ?
Celeron
Celeron G4950   2 / 2 ? 2 MB ? ?
Celeron G4930   2 / 2 ? 2 MB ? ?
Celeron G4930T   2 / 2 ? 2 MB 35 W ?
Celeron G4920   2 / 2 ? 2 MB ? ?
Celeron G4900   2 / 2 ? 2 MB ? ?
Celeron G4900T   2 / 2 ? 2 MB 35 W ?

*Processors that are already launched

There are a number of obvious blanks we can fill in. Non-lettered processors from Core i3 and above are usually 65W, while the T processors are usually 35W. Core counts for each series are known, and we assume there isn’t going to be any deviation here. Pricing on some of the processors has been generationally consistent as well: a 65W processor and its 35W variant has historically been the same list price. For caches, we know that the i7 parts have 12MB of L3, the i5 parts have 9MB of L3, the i3-83xx parts have 8MB of L3 and the i3-81xx parts have 6MB – all of these from the processors already launched. The Pentium processors usually have the same per-core as the i3-81xx parts, and the Celerons usually have another portion cut. The Pentium and Celeron processors that are not ‘T’ processors often have non-standard TDP values, such as 51 W or 54 W, so we have left these as question marks for now.

That’s a total of 46 desktop processors, all of which (we assume at this point) will be Coffee Lake-based. To put that into perspective when discussing mainstream desktop processors, we had 28 Kaby Lake desktop processors, 30 Skylake desktop processors, two Broadwell parts, and 80 Haswell processors. This puts this stack as broader than the most recent architectures, but still some way behind Haswell. Haswell was the last processor set on a mature 22nm, so we might see Intel do something similar with a final crack on a mature 14nm while 10nm ramps up.

The Core i5-8650K is an interesting addition, marking a second overclockable processor in the Core i5 line, while the i7 and i3 parts stay with a single overclockable processor. The last time Intel did this was with Devil’s Canyon, introducing the Core i5-4690K over the Core i5-4670K with some more frequency and more headroom, or back at Sandy Bridge with the i7-2700K launched over the i7-2600K with a better-binned chip. It is likely that this is the case here: the Core i5-8600K and the Core i7-8700 processors are quite different in their all-core turbo frequencies, so it is possible that this new Core i5-8650K is designed to bridge the gap.

The other interesting element here is the inclusion of the B processor line. Intel has used many letters for processors over the years: X, K, S, T, TE and P for desktop, with Y, U, H and HK for notebooks. As far as we can tell, B has never been used (unless you include the Pentium B950, a low-end dual-core mobile processor). The ‘B’ nomenclature was used by AMD for a few generations to signify their PRO processor line, but has been scrapped. It is possible that the B name is replacing the S, the TE or the P lines with a different letter, so without a complete specification sheet, it is hard to tell exactly where it fits. It isn’t replacing the Xeon-E line, at least.

Intel’s 9th Generation Processors: Coffee Lake Refresh?

So here comes the big unknown. There was no doubt that after the 8th generation there would be a 9th generation, but what exactly it could contain is a mystery. After Coffee Lake, built on Intel’s 14++ process, Intel has announced that the next major platform would be 10+ rather than 10, and they would be limiting 10nm to smaller mobile dies until the process matures. After Coffee Lake-S is supposed to be Ice Lake, speaking in Intel’s Lake cadence, as announced previously. Most arrows we know about point to 10+ being further off from consumer launch, so that offers two potentials here. The 9000 series processors could be a refresh of Coffee Lake, with some additional features, making it the second set of 14++ processors. Or it could be the names of the 10+ parts. Speculation at this point, for sure.

Intel 9th Generation Desktop Processors
Unknown Microarchitecture
Specifications
are unconfirmed
Cores Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
L3 TDP
Core i5-9600K ? ? ? ? ?
Core i5-9600 ? ? ? ? 65W ?
Core i5-9500 ? ? ? ? 65W ?
Core i5-9400 ? ? ? ? 65W ?
Core i5-9400T ? ? ? ? 35W ?
Core i3-9300 ? ? ? ? 65W ?
Core i3-9300T ? ? ? ? 35W ?
Core i3-9100 ? ? ? ? 65W ?
Core i3-9100T ? ? ? ? 35W ?
Core i3-9000 ? ? ? ? 65W ?
Core i3-9000T ? ? ? ? 35W ?

The other element in the equation is that Intel’s roadmaps have placed the Z390 chipset as coming in 2018 (there’s plenty of debate as to when in 2018, however). One would think that the Z390 would be an iterative upgrade over the Z370 chipset, launched with the current Coffee Lake desktop processors. The last time Intel launched a new high-end same-series chipset within a product cycle was back with Sandy Bridge, when P67 had the SATA port issue bug, and Intel subsequently launched Z68 to indicate motherboards with the fixed silicon. As far as we know, Z370 is not having any similar issues, so it is unlikely that the Z390 is going to exist to fix something. Z390 could all be about processor support, if certain processors are limited to certain chipsets (as Intel has partitioned out the Xeon processors in recent launches). There was also the ‘leak’ on the Eurocom forums where one of the engineers stated that their systems would be ready for 8-core Intel mobile parts in the second half of 2018. More information perhaps in the next few weeks, or at CES in January perhaps.

Specifications will be updated when we get them.

Source

Side Note: The title says 8th Generation and 9th Generation Processors. We’re not talking about Pentium 4s, which would probably be Intel’s 8th processor generation. Technically Coffee Lake should be Intel’s 8th Generation of Core microarchitectures, but in the same breath Kaby Lake Refresh is a new mobile quad-core with different power circuitry and binning, which is technically a 7th Generation Core product but labeled under Intel’s ‘8th Generation’.

Intel’s Core Architecture Cadence
Microarchitecture Core Generation Advertised
As x Gen
Process Node Release Year
Nehalem 1st 1st 45nm 2008
Westmere 1st 1st 32nm 2010
Sandy Bridge 2nd 2nd 32nm 2011
Ivy Bridge 3rd 3rd 22nm 2012
Haswell 4th 4th 22nm 2013
Haswell Refresh 4th 4th 22nm 2014
Broadwell 5th 5th 14nm 2014
Skylake 6th 6th 14nm 2015
Kaby Lake 7th 7th 14nm+ 2016
Kaby Lake Refresh 7th 8th 14nm+ 2017
Coffee Lake 8th 8th 14nm++ 2017
Cannon Lake ? 8th? 10nm 2018?
Ice Lake ? 9th? 10nm+ 2018?

The line is getting blurred between saying ‘x Generation’ and ‘x Generation Core’. We might in future just refer to them as 8000-series and 9000-series processors.

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Intel to Use Additional Assembly & Test Factory to Improve Supply of Coffee Lake CPUs

Intel to Use Additional Assembly & Test Factory to Improve Supply of Coffee Lake CPUs

In a mildly interesting bit of news for a Friday, Intel has notified its customers that it will use an additional assembly and test facility in a bid to improve supply of its latest desktop Coffee Lake processors. The new site has been certified equivalent for the said CPUs, so the finished products will be identical to those that are available today.

When Intel released its Core i7-8700K, Core i7-8700, Core i5-8600K, Core i5-8400, and other Coffee Lake products in early October, they could not meet demand and many stores did not have the higher-end models in stock at all. Today, the unlocked Core i7-8700K and i5-8600K are overpriced (compared to their MSRP) and not readily available at all times (with stock status changing several times a day), which means that their supply is not continuous and Intel cannot meet demand from all of its customers.

Basic Specifications of Intel Core i5/i7 Desktop CPUs
CPU Cores Freq.
(Base)
Freq.
(Boost)
L3 TDP PN Price
i7-8700K 6/12 3.7GHz 4.7GHz 12 MB 95W CM8068403358220
BX80684I78700K
$359
$370
i7-8700 3.2GHz 4.6GHz 65W CM8068403358316
BX80684I78700
$303
$312
i5-8600K 6/6 3.6GHz 4.3GHz 9 MB 95W CM8068403358508
BX80684I58600K
$257
$258
i5-8400 2.8GHz 4.0GHz 65W CM8068403358811
BX80684I58400
$182
$187
i3-8350K 4/4 4.0GHz N/A 8 MB 91W CM8068403376809
BX80684I38350K
$168
$179
i3-8100 3.6GHz N/A 6 MB 65W CM8068403377308
BX80684I38100
$117

To assemble and test Coffee Lake dies into actual Core i7/Core i5 processors, Intel has been using its primary assembly and test lines in Malaysia. Binning high-end CPUs is a challenging and time-consuming operation because far not all dies can hit required frequency and TDP. In general, the more silicon you bin, the more higher-end products you can get, but bandwidth of assembly and test lines is relatively limited.

To ensure a continuous supply of the popular six-core Core i7-8700K, Core i7-8700, Core i5-8600K, and Core i5-8400 processors, Intel will adding another assembly and test factory located in Chengdu, China. At least initially, the site will be used to assemble and test tray/OEM versions of the said CPUs. Intel’s assembly and test facilities are a part of Intel’s Copy Exactly! (CE!) program — all methodologies and process technologies they use across different production sites across the world are the same. As a result, performance, quality, reliability and other characteristics of CPUs produced, tested and assembled in different facilities are said to be equivalent.

Intel’s customers will begin to receive the aforementioned processors assembled in China starting from December 15. Since the factories in Malaysia will continue to be used, there will be Intel’s Core i7-8700K, Core i7-8700, Core i5-8600K, and Core i5-8400 CPUs assembled either in China or Malaysia going forward.

Intel has been working to improve yields of its chips produced using various versions of its 14 nm fabrication process for three years now, so unless there is an anomaly in Coffee Lake’s design or the 14++ technology, yields of the CFL chips should be predictable. Besides, Intel uses its 14 nm manufacturing technologies in different fabs now, so processing more wafers is not an issue for the company. And while the bandwidth of assembly and test facilities is not usually an issue for CPUs, in the case of Coffee Lake this may be the case, if Intel’s PCN is anything to go by.

Since Intel does not quantify how many Coffee Lake dies it processes now in Malaysia and how many dies are expected to be assembled and tested in China due to competitive and other reasons, it is impossible to tell how the addition of another site affects supply of its latest processors in general and their high-end versions in particular. A good news here is that Intel promises that with the addition of the Chinese assembly & test lines, supply of tray versions of the six-core Coffee Lake CPUs will be more continuous. As a result, supply and demand for boxed versions of the said chips will likely get more balanced too.

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Intel Rebrands Kaby Lake Pentiums to Pentium Gold

Intel Rebrands Kaby Lake Pentiums to Pentium Gold

Intel has announced plans to rebrand its current generation Pentium processors, and future generations, to ‘Pentium Gold’ chips. The rebranding reflects Intel’s intention to position the latest Pentium CPUs above the previous generation parts.

Starting from November 2nd, Intel’s boxed Pentium G4560, G4600, and G4620 processors will carry the Pentium Gold brand. These parts were launched in Q1 2017, and are dual-core CPUs with Hyper-Threading technology and an improved integrated GPU.

General Specifications of Intel’s Pentium G-Series Processors
Kaby Lake Skylake
  Cores Freq. L3 iGPU TDP   Cores Freq. L3 iGPU TDP
Gold G4620 2/4 3.7GHz 3MB i630 51W G4520 2/2 3.6GHz 3MB i530 51W
Gold G4600 3.6GHz G4500 3.5GHz
Gold G4560 3.5GHz i610 54W G4400 3.3GHz i510 54W
G4600T 3.0GHz i630 35W G4500T 3.0GHz i530 35W
G4560T 2.9GHz i610 G4400T 2.9GHz i510
HD Graphics 610: 12 EUs at 900 – 1100 MHz
HD Graphics 630: 24 EUs at 1000 – 1150 MHz
HD Graphics 510: 12 EUs at 950 MHz
HD Graphics 530: 24 EUs at 1150 MHz

With the name changes also comes a slight branding and retail packaging update. The first is with their “Piggyback label” (included sticker attached to the instructions), which changes from the ‘PCB’ die map as a background to gold. Instead of saying Pentium inside, it now says Pentium Gold with the Intel name above it.

The outside of the retail packaging carton some changes are made as well. Where it used to simply say “Desktop Processor” now says “Intel Pentium Gold Desktop Processor.”

There are unofficial reports claiming that Intel is also preparing Pentium Silver products, thus splitting the desktop Pentium lineup into two groups. The Pentium Gold family evidently consists of the mainstream desktop (MSDT) processors based on the high-performance Core-branded microarchitecture. According to some reports, the Pentium Silver lineup will use the ultra-low power (ULP) codenamed Gemini Lake microarchitecture, but we cannot confirm this independently.

Price and Availability Watch: Core i7-8700K, Core i5-8600K and Core i3-8350K

Price and Availability Watch: Core i7-8700K, Core i5-8600K and Core i3-8350K

Intel on Thursday officially initiated sales of its 8th Generation ‘Coffee Lake’ processors for desktops worldwide. The new chips offer more physical cores in the mainstream processor segment than their predecessors, but unlocked versions also come at $15-$20 higher MSRPs. As what usually happens with new products, the main questions are around whether the chips are actually available, and if the on-shelf prices are on par with manufacturer’s suggested ones. In our searches so far, the new 8th Gen chips for desktops are not easy to get.

Actual Availability and Pricing

For our availability and price checks, we use multiple well-known stores across the world as well as price search engines to ensure that we are not missing anything. It is important to note that most stores tend to sell products at their MSRPs on launch days, but going forward prices tend to fluctuate.

Intel publishes prices as RCP (Recommended Customer Pricing). This is the price it gives for customers buying 1000 CPUs (a ‘tray’) as an OEM. Retail prices are often $5-15 higher depending on the configuration.

Intel Core i7-8700K

We start our small availability investigation from the Core i7-8700K (RCP: $359), which has all chances to become a bestseller: the CPU has six cores with HT, a relatively high-frequency out of the box, and an unlocked multiplier. It sounds like a dream processor for an enthusiast that also wants to save money compared to a high-end desktop system.

Intel Core i7-8700K Availability and Pricing
As of October 6th
Retailer Country Local Price Equivalent in USD (w/tax) Status
Amazon U.S. N/A N/A Unavailable
B&H Photo Video U.S. $370 $370 ETA Unknown
CDW U.S. Not Listed
Fry’s Electronics U.S. Not Listed
Newegg U.S. $380 $380 Sold Out
NCIX Canada $470 $373 ETA Unknown
 
Amazon UK U.K. Not Listed
Overclockers UK U.K. £360 $471 ETA Unknown
OcUK Pre-Binned U.K. £500 – £800 $654 – $1046 Limited Stock
Scan U.K. £360 $471 ETA Unknown
 
Amazon DE Germany Not Listed
Amazon ES Spain Not Listed
Amazon FR France Not Listed
Alternate Austria €400 $468 ETA in December
Comstern Austria €396 $464 ETA 2-4 weeks
Bora Computer Germany €410 $480 ETA Unknown
CaseKing Germany €410 $479 ETA Unknown
CK Pre-Binned Germany €440 – €870 $514 – $1017 ETA Unknown
 
Komplett Sweden 4,199 kr $515 ETA in December
Misco Sweden Not Listed
Proshop Finland €430   ETA 10/26

As it appears, the Core i7-8700K is hard to find. It is listed on Amazon, but as “currently unavailable”, which is often not a good sign for overall stock levels. It is possible to pre-order the CPU model from multiple stores across the world, but it looks like their ETA is late-October to early-December, at least for certain stores in Europe. As for online auction sites, there are sellers demanding $800 – $900 per unit.

Intel Core i7-8700

Moving on to the locked Core i7-8700 (RCP: $303). This chip is slightly slower than the unlocked part out of the box, but offers a lower 65W TDP.

Intel Core i7-8700 Availability and Pricing
As of October 6th
Retailer Country Local Price Equivalent USD
(w/tax)
In Stock
Amazon U.S. $312 ETA Unknown
B&H Photo Video U.S. $312 $312 In Stock
CDW U.S. $430 $430 Call
Fry’s Electronics U.S. Not Listed
Newegg U.S. Not Listed
NCIX Canada $420 $334 In Stock
 
Amazon UK U.K. Not Listed
Overclockers UK U.K. £330 $431 In Stock
Scan U.K. £310 $405 ETA Unknown
 
Amazon DE Germany Not Listed
Amazon ES Spain Not Listed
Amazon FR France Not Listed
Alternate Austria €334 $391 ETA in December
Comstern Austria €334 $391 ETA 2-4 weeks
Bora Computer Germany €349 $408 ETA Unknown
CaseKing Germany €334 $398 ETA Unknown
 
Komplett Sweden 3,499 kr $429 ETA in December
Misco Sweden Not Listed
Proshop Finland €360 $422 ETA 24/10

The situation looks somewhat better for the non-K processor. The Core i7-8700 is not listed on any European Amazon site, but it can be purchased from B&H in the US, NCIX in Canada, and from Overclockers UK. The chips can be pre-ordered from multiple outlets (including Amazon US), but they are going to ship them sometime in late October or even in December, based on information from stores in Germany, Finland, and Sweden.

Intel Core i5-8600K

Next up is Intel’s highest-performing CPU in the Core i5 range, the i5-8600K (RCP: $257). This CPU officially costs ~$100 below the Core i7-8700K as it works at a slightly lower frequency, but it also lacks Hyper-Threading and has a smaller L3 cache, meaning it will be slower in all types of tasks, multi-threaded or single threaded. Good news, it can be overclocked.

Intel Core i5-8600K Availability and Pricing
As of October 6th
Retailer Country Local Price Equivalent USD
(w/tax)
Status
Amazon U.S. $258 ETA Unknown
B&H Photo Video U.S. $258 $258 In Stock
CDW U.S. Not Listed
Fry’s Electronics U.S. Not Listed
Newegg U.S. $260 $260 ETA 10-20 days
NCIX Canada $350 $278 ETA Unknown
 
Amazon UK U.K. Not Listed
Overclockers UK U.K. £270 $353 ETA Unknown
Scan U.K. £258 $337 ETA Unknown
 
Amazon DE Germany Not Listed
Amazon ES Spain Not Listed
Amazon FR France Not Listed
Alternate Austria €279 $327 ETA in December
Comstern Austria €278 $325 ETA 2-4 weeks
Proshop Austria €290 $340 ETA 10/16
Bora Computer Germany Not Listed
CaseKing Germany Boxed: €280
Tray: €270
$327
$316
ETA Unknown
ETA 10/11
CK PreBinned Germany €300 – €600 $351 – $703 Unknown
 
Proshop Finland €300 $351 ETA 10/16
Komplett Sweden 2,899 kr $355 ETA in December
Misco Sweden Not Listed

A number of stores, including B&H, Newegg, ProShop, and CaseKing, are taking orders on the Core i5-8600K and promise to ship them by mid-October. In fact, B&H even claims that it has the chips in stock, but its delivery time is 10 days. Meanwhile in most cases, the Core i5-8600K CPUs are either not listed or are available only for pre-order with an unknown shipment date.

Intel Core i5-8400

The Core i5-8400 is positioned as a mainstream CPU for higher-end desktops that will be loved by both OEMs and consumers. This processor is the most affordable six-core CPU on the market today. It has an RCP of $182, which is significantly lower than $257 for the Core i5-8600K and $219 for the Ryzen 5 1600. This chip cannot be overclocked, but it still looks very good for its price. But can you actually buy it right now?

Intel Core i5-8400 Availability and Pricing
As of October 6th
Retailer Country Local Price Equivalent USD
(w/tax)
Status
Amazon U.S. $187 $187 ETA 10/8
B&H Photo Video U.S. $187 $187 In Stock
CDW U.S.   Not Listed
Fry’s Electronics U.S.   Not Listed
Newegg U.S. $190 $190 In Stock
NCIX Canada $250 $199 In Stock
 
Amazon UK U.K. £172 $225 Ships from U.S.
Overclockers UK U.K. £180 $235 In Stock
Scan U.K. £172 $132 In Stock
 
Amazon DE Germany Not Listed
Amazon ES Spain Not Listed
Amazon FR France Not Listed
Alternate Austria €195 $228 ETA in December
Comstern Austria €200 $234 In Stock
ProShop Austria €200 $234 ETA 10/24
Bora Computer Germany €209 $244 ETA Unknown
CaseKing Germany €200 $234 ETA 10/11
 
Arvutitark Estonia €189 $221 In Stock (ltd)
Proshop Finland Not Listed
Komplett Sweden 1,999 kr $245 ETA in December
Misco Sweden Not Listed

Apparently, you can buy this chip. Leading retailers in North America either have the Core i5-8400 in stock or are about to get the first batch. You can also buy the chips from two retailers in the U.K. Meanwhile, mainland Europe is a mixed bag for the i5-8400 availability. You can grab the chip in Estonia from Arvutitark, but the company had 10 CPUs in total at press time — that is one unit per store in most of the cases. Meanwhile, CaseKing and ProShop Austria expect to start selling the i5-8400 in mid-to-late October. Some other outlets expect the inexpensive six-core Coffee Lake model to arrive in December.

Intel Core i3-8350K

Moving down to the Core i3 range. For users considering Intel’s Core i5-7600K, the new Core i3-8350K is now an optimum target and significantly cheaper. The Core i3-8350K has four cores, runs at 4 GHz, has 8 MB LLC and an unlocked multiplier. Intel wants $168 for the i3-8350K and this pretty much looks like a bargain when compared to the i5-7600K ($242). Now, let’s check the actual availability and pricing of the new SKU.

Intel Core i3-8350K Availability and Pricing
As of October 6th
Retailer Country Local Price Equivalent USD (w/ tax) Status
Amazon U.S. $179 $179 In Stock
B&H Photo Video U.S. $179 $179 In Stock
CDW U.S. Not Listed
Fry’s Electronics U.S. Not Listed
Newegg U.S. $180 $180 In Stock
NCIX Canada $240 $191 In Stock
 
Amazon UK U.K. £164 $215 Ships from U.S.
Overclockers UK U.K. £170 $222 In Stock
Scan U.K. £167 $218 In Stock
 
Amazon DE Germany Not Listed
Amazon ES Spain Not Listed
Amazon FR France Not Listed
Alternate Austria €193 $226 ETA in December
Comstern Austria €198 $232 In Stock
ProShop Austria €200 $234 In Stock
Bora Computer Germany €199 $233 ETA Unknown
CaseKing Germany €200 $234 In Stock
 
Proshop Finland €210 $246 In Stock
Komplett Sweden 1,999 kr $245 ETA in December
Misco Sweden Not Listed

The Core i3-8350K is available from multiple retailers worldwide, but with a small overprice compared to its RCP as expected. That small overprice is common for other Coffee Lake models, but with the i3-8350K, it puts the SKU on the territory of the i5-8400. The latter is, of course, a non-overclocking CPU that runs at a moderate frequency, but it has six cores. Obviously, a lot of people will wonder which of the products is better for their workloads, but even users may be confused with the i3 and i5 overlap.

Intel Core i3-8100

The most affordable Coffee Lake model announced so far is the quad-core Core i3-8100, it costs $117 and can match something like the Core i5-7500 ($192) in terms of performance. Let’s check its real price and availability.

Intel Core i3-8100 Availability and Pricing
As of October 6th
Retailer Country Local Price Equivalent USD (w/ tax) Status
Amazon U.S. Not Listed
Check Availability
B&H Photo Video U.S. $117 $117 In Stock
CDW U.S. Not Listed
Fry’s Electronics U.S. Not Listed
Newegg U.S. $120 $120 In Stock
NCIX Canada $160 $127 In Stock
 
Amazon UK U.K. Not Listed
Overclockers UK U.K. £110 $144 In Stock
Scan U.K. £110 $144 In Stock
 
Amazon DE Germany Not Listed
Amazon ES Spain Not Listed
Amazon FR France Not Listed
Alternate Austria €128 $150 ETA in December
Comstern Austria €130 $152 ETA 2-4 weeks
ProShop Austria €130 $152 In Stock
Bora Computer Germany €125 $146 ETA Unknown
CaseKing Germany €130 $152 ETA 10/11
 
Proshop Finland €135 $158 In Stock
Komplett Sweden 1,349 kr $165 ETA in December
Misco Sweden Not Listed

For some reason, Amazon does not offer the Core i3-8100 at all anywhere, but you can get the product from various other retailers across the world. At least in the US, the price of the i3-8100 is not inflated because it is a new model or because the supply is tight. In other regions, you can either get it straight away or within a week, which means the stores may have a good supply of the chip.

More Cores, Larger Caches, Higher Price if Unlocked

For many years, Intel has had a rather strict division between its unlocked Core i7 and Core i5 CPUs as well as Core i3 chips for mainstream desktop platforms both in terms of specifications and in terms of pricing. The Core i7 has always had four cores with HT as well as an 8 MB L3 cache, the Core i5 has featured four cores without HT as well as a slightly cut-down 6 MB L3 cache, whereas the Core i3 has integrated two cores with HT and 3 or 4 MB LLC. The launch of the Coffee Lake (Core i-series 8000 sequence) family adds two physical cores to all of the aforementioned product families, expands their caches, speeds up memory and brings in a number of other improvements — you can read about all of them in our review. The general principle that divides different product families remains the same though: the Core i7 has six cores with HT and a 12 MB cache, the Core i5 scraps HT and a part of the cache, whereas the Core i3 becomes a quad-core CPU without HT and a smaller cache.

General Specifications of Intel’s 2017 Mainstream Desktop CPUs
8th Generation  7th Generation
  Cores Freq.
(Base)
L3 TDP   Cores Freq.
(Base)
L3 TDP
i7-8700K 6/12 3.7 GHz 12 MB 95W i7-7700K 4/8 4.2 GHz 8 MB 91W
i7-8700 3.2 GHz 65W i7-7700 3.6 GHz 65W
i5-8600K 6/6 3.6 GHz 9 MB 95W i5-7600K 4/4 3.8 GHz 6 MB 91W
i5-8400 2.8 GHz 65W i5-7400 3.0 GHz 65W
i3-8350K 4/4 4 GHz 8 MB 91W i3-7350K 2/4 4.2 GHz 4 MB 60W
i3-8100 3.6 GHz 6 MB 65W i3-7100 3.9 GHz 51W

When it comes to pricing, the situation requires some attention as it is a bit different from the usual. The locked Core i7-8700, Core i5-8400 and Core i3-8100 cost exactly the same amount of money as their direct predecessors (the i7-7700, i5-7400 and i3-8100). So, people getting those products essentially get two extra cores for the same price. Meanwhile, CPUs with an unlocked multiplier — the Core i7-8700K and the Core i5-8600K — run faster than their locked brethren out-of-box and can be overclocked further, but their RCPs are a bit higher than those of their direct predecessors.

In fact, after Intel introduced its Core i7 and Core i5 CPUs with an unlocked multiplier in 2011, it has, for the most part, kept RCPs constant, except with a blip on the Broadwell CPUs (due to eDRAM) and now the upgraded core parts. Intel charged $313 – $317 for an unlocked Core i7 in 2011-2012, increased that price to $339-$350 in 2013-2017 and even sold an unlocked Core i7 with a powerful iGPU for $366 in 2015 (but since the Broadwell Unlocked was barely aimed at ‘traditional’ enthusiasts, we can ignore that). Likewise, Intel used to sell an unlocked Core i5 for $212-$216 in 2011-2012 and then increased their prices to ~$242 for 2013-early 2017 period (if the i5-5675C is not taken into account).

Today, Intel increases pricing of the Core i7-8700K and the Core i5-8600K CPUs by $20 and $15 compared to their direct predecessors from the Kaby Lake family, a relatively small increase that fits into the trend. This is hardly surprising. Overclocking is becoming more popular these days, makers of motherboards tend to put a hefty premium on their high-end products, so Intel wants to get its slice of the pie as well.

When it comes to the Core i3-8350K, it costs $168, which is in line with its direct predecessor, the Core i3-7350K. Keep in mind that Intel launched its first unlocked Core i3 earlier this year and these chips cost more than their brethren with locked multipliers did. Entry-level i3 overclocking is something new for Intel, but there is no MSRP change with the increase of the number of cores.

First Core Count Upgrade in a Decade and Per-Core Pricing Drops

Intel introduced its first quad-core processor for mainstream desktop platforms in 2006 with the launch of the Core 2 Quad Q6600. The company has been slowly increasing core count of its high-end desktop CPUs from four to six, then to eight, then to 10, and then all the way to 18 cores this year. Meanwhile, Intel’s mainstream desktop platforms have not seen any core count upgrade for a decade. Obviously, they have been gaining performance with microarchitecture enhancements, the addition of Hyper-Threading and other improvements (such as bigger and better iGPUs), but their physical core count stalled at two for entry-level and at four in case of higher-end parts from 2006 to 2017. With the launch of the Coffee Lake, Intel changes that.

While Intel does increase pricing of unlocked Core i5/i7 CPUs compared to predecessors a bit, it does not do so with the rest of the family, adding cores at no charge. Probably, this means that the costs of the new Coffee Lake-S chips are not significantly higher than the costs of the Kaby Lake-S CPUs operating at higher frequencies, which possibly means that Intel’s 14++ (14nm-plus-plus) process technology is mature and the yields are high. Another thing to point out is that Intel significantly lowers per-core pricing of its CPUs. For example, the i5-8400 and the i3-8100 are available at $30 per core, down from $47 per core for the i5-7400 just a couple of quarters ago.

The new Core i-series 8000-sequence CPUs require new Intel 300-series chipset based motherboards, so people interested in upgrading will still have to pay a premium for the new Coffee Lake platform. But at least there are now mainstream ($182 – $257) Intel CPUs with six cores as well as entry-level ($117) offerings with four cores. At these price points, the new processors for Intel are likely to get rather popular among consumers, especially those who upgrade from five or six-year-old platforms.

Prices of Contemporary CPUs from Intel
  Cores/
Threads
Base Freq. Intel
RCP
Price per Core
Coffee Lake-S
i7-8700K 6/12 3.7 GHz $359 $60
i7-8700 6/12 3.2 GHz $303 $51
i5-8600K 6/6 3.6 GHz $257 $43
i5-8400 6/6 2.8 GHz $182 $30
i3-8350K 4/4 4.0 GHz $168 $42
i3-8100 4/4 3.6 GHz $117 $29
Kaby Lake-S
i7-7700K 4/8 4.2 GHz $339 $89
i7-7700 4/8 3.6 GHz $303 $84
i5-7600K 4/4 3.8 GHz $242 $60
i5-7400 4/4 3.0 GHz $182 $47
i3-7350K 2/4 4.2 GHz $168 $92
i3-7100 2/4 3.9 GHz $117 $60
High-End Desktop CPUs
i9-7980XE 18/36 2.6 GHz $1979 $110
i9-7960X 16/32 2.8 GHz $1684 $105
i9-7940X 14/28 3.1 GHz $1387 $99
i9-7920X 12/24 2.9 GHz $1189 $105
i9-7900X 10/20 3.3 GHz $989 $108
i7-7820X 8/16 3.6 GHz $589 $86
i7-7800X 6/12 3.5 GHz $383 $72
i7-7740X 4/8 4.3 GHz $339 $86
i5-7640X 4/4 4.0 GHz $242 $64

Without any doubts, Intel’s official recommended prices for the new Coffee Lake-S parts look rather good if we compare them against RCPs of the Kaby Lake-S SKUs. Meanwhile, the big question is how much do the new parts actually cost in real stores and how widely available they are. This is something we are going to investigate in our next section.

Some Thoughts

The new Coffee Lake CPUs represent a significant upgrade of Intel’s mainstream desktop products in terms of core count. The launch of relatively affordable Core i5/i7 models with six cores will catalyze many people to upgrade their PCs with quad-core CPUs, so we expect the 8th Generation Core i5/i7 products to be rather popular. The quad-core Core i3-8350K seems to have a lot of potential among overclockers, but its price is so close to the six-core Core i5-8400 that it will inevitably create some confusion. In the meantime, the quad-core Core i3-8100 brings a significant performance boost to the i3 range, so we expect the SKU to be in high demand too.

Now, let’s talk about availability. The top-of-the-range Core i7-8700K model is not available from major retailers at all. Even on auction sites, there were only two sellers to offer this chip for $800 – $900 at press time. The Core i7-8700 is more readily available from large suppliers, but the majority of online stores cannot ship it right now. Availability of the Core i5-8600K is scarce, but some suppliers promise to have them in their stock sometimes in mid-October. As for the remaining three chips in the Coffee Lake lineup, the Core i5-8400, the Core i3-8350K, and the Core i3-8100, they can be obtained from multiple retailers, but not from all of them.

As noted above, pricing of new products in their first days of availability tends to be very close to MSRP. We have noticed that some of the CFL SKUs are priced above MSRP, but the difference was not very substantial. The big question is how high the prices are going to get if demand for Coffee Lake exceeds Intel’s supply.

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